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How do you forgive?
01.29.07 (1:40 pm)   [edit]

I mean truly forgive...Someone can apologise to me, and I will accept their verbal apology, but sometimes I still feel miffed. And I want to move past something, but on occasion, it takes time. Sometimes, it takes a long time. I don't feel good about that.

On the weekend, I was really upset about a couple of things, related to Mr. Nick. We talked about it, and for a moment, all was good again. But the issues are still on my mind, and I don't feel like I've really let go. It's not like I want to take revenge and hurt him. I just want to feel okay.

The first thing 

This weekend, we went to his parents' cabin in the mountains. He's been going there almost every weekend (without me, of course) since the ski season started. That's fine and all, but what I wasn't fine with was that he never, ever asked me once if I wanted to go. I know he figured I wasn't a downhill skier and had no interest in going. But I was still hurt he never asked me. And to top it off, everyone (okay, his friends and mine) kept asking me, "has he taken you there yet?" or they'd be surprised that he hadn't. One time, I said right in front of him, "I've never been invited," and he said, "you haven't?" and brushed it off. Finally, when I was mad enough, I asked him why he never invited me. He told me I figured I wouldn't want to go (despite I talk about the times I've ever gone to the mountains and talk about the things I have enjoyed doing there), so he never asked.

I know it's not his duty to take me, etc., etc., but it would be nice to be asked anyway. How can I not take it personally when I feel excluded? And when we got there, his friend was like, "you've never been here before?" (Is it weird that the "I love you"s came before going to the cabin?). I think it was after that comment that I realised how upset I really was. All along I just tried to brush it off and remind myself, he's going there to ski, and he'd invite me eventually. I also told myself that he's there to downhill ski, and I don't do that. However, this resort has great shopping, spas, and there are other snow sports to do there that I would totally do.

I was also a little choked that he invited another couple to go with us, considering it was our first time going there together. Nothing personal against the other couple -- they were fun -- but I don't know.

I didn't thank him for inviting me because I feel like I forced him to do it, but I did thank him for taking me. 

The second thing

I was going to blog about this after we came back from California, but I didn't feel like it. Mr. Nick and I spent the day at Disneyland with my friends who are also a couple. I felt completely ignored that day by Mr. Nick because he only talked to them, or if I said something to him, he'd ignore what I said and start talking to my friends. I was getting quite angry but I never said anything because I thought I was being overly sensitive due to PMS. I had my back turned to him the whole time we were in line for one of the rides, and I don't think he even noticed.

I wasn't PMSing this weekend, and I noticed the same thing happening with this couple.  Mr. Nick would only talk to them, or ignore whatever I directly said to him, and start talking to them right away (literally).

I'm not sure why he does this because I don't notice this in big groups. Was there something he was trying to prove? I don't think he even does it on purpose. (However, when I pointed out this behaviour to him, he said he noticed and tried to correct it at the time.)

The resolution 

By the time we went to bed, I was barely speaking to him. I couldn't even look at him. Even though I wanted him to know how I felt, I didn't want to talk about it. I was tired. But I couldn't sleep either. I left the room a few times, and I tossed and turned. Finally, in his half-asleep state, I told him how I felt. He apologised, and I said, "okay." 

I was still a little pissy the morning after, and probably a lot of yesterday. Obviously, all this stuff is still on my mind. I don't know why. I guess I will talk to him again about this, but I don't want to talk about it ever again (since I expect the second thing to never happen again). Why am I still upset? I know he is not trying to purposely hurt me, but I guess I was still hurt enough.

When we had our talk, he told me he loved me and that I meant a lot to him. But for some reason, I wasn't feeling it. (Was he saying it because he felt bad??) Sometimes I wonder if getting to the "I love you" part was the thrill of the challenge for me...like how I used to feel content if a guy I'd been chasing finally liked me and then I'd lose interest.

I think Mr. Nick is a great guy, and I'm not going to dump him or anything. I am guessing my general feeling is just the natural flow of a relationship, ebbing and flowing. 

Which brings me to another possible situation I could easily get out of. I chatted with Cute Butt Boy last week. He suggested I give him a shout if I was ever in his neighbourhood, or he'd give me a call if he was ever in mine. I am not usually in his hood though *L* and the next time he's going to be in mine is when he goes to the airport for his trip to Japan. If we ever saw each other again, it would be totally innocent, but I'd still feel guilty. I know Mr. Nick wouldn't cheer me on to getting together with someone I was "buddies" with. But since I am feeling a little mad, at this point in time, I would see Cute Butt Boy.

I feel so childish. BWAHAHAHA

And I would never hide getting together with him either. If I get through another month or so of not seeing Cute Butt Boy, I can't imagine ever seeing him again. I don't miss him like I used to, thank goodness. I don't even think about him.

 


posted by: katz (reply)
post date: 01.29.07 (2:15 pm)

yes it sounds like the natural flow of a new relationship. Although near the end of things with V, he was definatly purposely leaving me out of things, which made me even more depressed at the time.Gawd why did I give him so many chances?? But I don't think that is what is happening in this case.



posted by: Roxgirl (reply)
post date: 01.29.07 (2:32 pm)

I'm glad you brought Mr. Nick's bad behaviour to his attention... people can't change their ways if they are unaware that the things they do annoy you! Good for you!
But if these things don't change, what will you do then? Every woman should feel loved and attended to by their BF, not ignored! I say you have to do what makes you happy! Being happy is paramount!
Did you enjoy going to his cabin when you went? It sounds like something that he really enjoys... I'm really concerned why he never invited you out even just to teach you how to ski! (You'd think since you are his GF he'd want to spend time with you out on the slopes too... and make you semi-comfortable on a pair of skis!)
Does he expect that he'll go out to the cabin alone forever??? That would really suck!!!

Hopefully you get past this little obstacle! Mr. Nick sure does sound like a good one, Rosie!



posted by: doeeyed (reply)
post date: 01.29.07 (3:54 pm)

First and foremost, I want you to think about you! I know that sounds selfish but, I wish someone would have pounded that into my head a long, long time ago. I'm sure Mr. Nick is wonderful and has no intention of hurting you purposely but, keep your eyes and ears open! If it continues, do NOT put up with it. Be very firm and don't leave anything to the imagination. Let him know right up front EXACTLY how you feel.
As long as you're his girlfriend, you should feel like #1!

I guess you can tell I've been through H E double hockey sticks with men. If I had it to over, I would kick ass first and take names later.

I'm sure everything will work out and you are right when you say that there is a natural ebb and flow to romantic relationships. Hang in there sweetpea :)



posted by: rosietulips (reply)
post date: 01.29.07 (4:40 pm)

Reply to: katz
Don't beat yourself up over V too much...at least you gave it a shot. And any normal person would have hope for her significant other.




posted by: rosietulips (reply)
post date: 01.29.07 (4:44 pm)

Reply to: Roxgirl

Yes, I enjoyed going to the cabin. It was beautiful! (which made me even more ticked off that I was denied of it! *L*) He usually does his best to keep me happy, and he is usually great about these things. I guess sometimes he needs to be told what to do, like a lot of guys!

As for the skiing thing, I don't know. Now you're worrying me! *L* He has plenty of people to ski with, and I always treated it as his thing, you know? And I've been vehemently opposing trying downhill skiing because I'm terrified of heights! I hope to get over this obstacle. Anyway, I am not expecting him to take me every time he's there -- just once in a while would be nice enough.





posted by: rosietulips (reply)
post date: 01.29.07 (4:48 pm)

Reply to: doeeyed

"HE double hockey sticks" always makes me giggle *L* Anyway, I have been used to taking action when I feel like I am not treated as well I could/should be by boyfriends. Usually, they get kicked to the curb after one chance.

One time I said to him that I didn't ask for much, and he said I was right. I think I hope for the best from boyfriends, and if I'm not getting what I need I tell them once, and if they can't give it to me, then it's bye.

Thanks for your words of wisdom, oh wise one!



posted by: LadyG (reply)
post date: 01.29.07 (5:38 pm)

rosie, it is much easier to forgive then to forget, especially if you have been hurt.I am concerned at Mr. Nick ignoring you like he did to talk to the other couple, that is very strange behavior. A man in love is very attentive and hangs onto your every word.
Maybe you should drop a hint that you are just thinking about meeting an old friend and test his reaction. does it bother him or it doesn't matter.
Hoping that it all works out rosie, I know that you love him.



posted by: rosietulips (reply)
post date: 01.30.07 (12:05 am)

Reply to: LadyG
I brought up my issues with him again tonight, and I know it was bad timing, but I did it anyway. He has no rhyme or reason to why he is disrespectful of me when we're with another couple. I know he loves me and wouldn't purposely hurt me. He said he did catch himself speaking to other people right after I said something and tried to correct it. I hope this is just a minor thing we can get past.




posted by: 69whisper (reply)
post date: 01.30.07 (1:10 am)

some people have this habit of taking things lightly and they also normally think that it will resolve by itself (with passage of time, they are often required to be told time and again that 'i have feelings too and i can be hurt'. and if you dont tell them they keep taking it light as if nothing ever happened.
I dont know whats the age difference, but i presume he is atleast 5 to 8 years elder than you ?????
Doeeyes is partially right above, but i dont think the issue is that serious. In a relationship you have to compromise a lot, sacrifice a lot, learn to forgive and forget (its a scientifically proven fact that women do not forget things for a long period), learn from each other and most importantly talk to each other about 'how you feel'. If you dont do the talking then the issues keep growing and you end up nowhere.
Idea of seeing Cute Butt Boy is quite premature i think, you need to think about it again, a little later. I know you are not doing it as a revenge or something but still the idea needs reviewing.



posted by: doeeyed (reply)
post date: 01.30.07 (5:25 am)

Reply to: rosietulips
H E double hockey sticks....did I make you giggle again? ;)
BTW, I've probably dished out my fair share of it too, I'm sure.
I didn't take you for a shrinking violet and figured that you could very well stand up for yourself!! You go girl :)

It sounds like Mr. Nick is being responsive to what you're asking and that's a very good thing. I'm sure it will all work out.

All the best,
Doe



posted by: rosietulips (reply)
post date: 01.30.07 (5:14 pm)

Reply to: 69whisper
Actually, Mr. Nick is pretty close to my age -- only 11 months older. We're still learning from each other. I have a long memory sometimes, but I try to keep the past out of current discussions/arguments unless it's something that's reoccurring. I guess keeping the lines of communication is the key, but sometimes I feel like men and women speak different languages!




posted by: rosietulips (reply)
post date: 01.30.07 (5:15 pm)

Reply to: doeeyed

Thanks :)Mr. Nick does put in the effort to keep me happy. It doesn't sound like he slept very well last night either.



posted by: 69whisper (reply)
post date: 01.31.07 (12:03 am)

Reply to: rosietulips
ohh...the age difference is negligible then. I think then the only problem is that he has already gone through what you are going through now (may be). he is more experienced :) Get me ?

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