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posted by: FinalyFree (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (10:01 am) Well, it does seem like up until just recently he was kind of leaving you out of his family functions. Did you ever find out exactly why? I mean I can see not inviting you for every Thursday night dinner with the Aunt and Uncle, but Easter dinner? That's a biggie. I also think you have a right to be upset about this especially since you've tried to include him in on so many of your family functions. posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (10:10 am) Reply to: FinalyFree I didn't find out exactly why I had been left out of his family functions...His excuse was that he wasn't sure what to do about them re: inviting me. How do I get past this?? posted by: Twitchy67 (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (10:38 am) Maybe he's just a bit insensitive to your feelings, like most of us guys are. If you invite him to family dinners, that does NOT under any circumstances get read as a message that you want to go to his family dinners, and it's unfair of you to be mad that he didn't hints if you didn't come out and say "Why don't you invite me to family dinners, cuz i'd love to go and right now I feel excluded" until it got hot enough to boil over into shouting. We aren't mind readers, and this is a big thing for men in general, i think. The hockey game one is difficult for me. It IS the playoffs, and to a fan, that IS a very important time. It's kind of like the gym for you...I'm guessing that you would choose not to miss it for a fairly common other event that will happen again outside of gym time. My girlfriend wouldn't set something up for during the game for me cuz she knows i'd want to watch it. Flip side of that is that if something came up that couldn't get got out of, we'd step up and do it. I'm curious why he said he'd be out of town and then wasn't tho. Two other things occur to me. #1. If i wasn't sure how my g/f felt about something i'd ask her, not assume the answer is no. So I call BS to him on that one. #2. Not inviting your significant other to the easter dinner is a big no no to me. That is an important family event, and personally I'd WANT my partner at it. Is it possible he's a bit embarrassed of his family, or, even worse, he has a misunderstanding as to a family members feelings about the two of you and just can't deal with it? Communicate... posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (10:44 am) Reply to: Twitchy67 We discussed the hockey game thing, and he said it sounded like a "stupid" reason to miss a dinner. It was my mom inviting us to dinner, and not me organising it. I complained to my mom about missing the game, too. But I chose dinner with the family, and I could have taped the game. And please don't compare your love of hockey to my gym workouts. They are the first thing to go for me when I have something going on. I had 2 workouts in 2 weeks the last while. And I already talked to Mr. Nick about the not being invited to his family things recently. But my feelings are still hurt about it, and having Friday night happen was like pouring salt on an open wound. He probably didn't leave for Whistler so he could watch the game, and he had been feeling tired from his Crohn's lately. Honestly, I think it didn't occur to him to invite me, but that is still hurtful. :'( posted by: FinalyFree (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (11:17 am) Reply to: rosietulips I think the Easter Dinner thingy was a major faux pas on his part, I'll agree with Twitchy on that one. And also after reading Twitchy's comment he may be on to something, I know we women tend to 'drop hints' so men KNOW what we want without having to just come right out and say it. Most all of us know it's futile but we still keep doing it, lol. I think you should let him know that you felt excluded--that way, in the future he'll know that it's something you'd like to be included in on. And it's his responsibility to let his family know that you all are a 'couple' and under normal circumstances an invite for Mr. Nick is also an invite for Ms. Rosie :) After making that point clear I'd just let it go and see what happens. posted by: Twitchy67 (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (11:43 am) Reply to: rosietulips Yes, don't get me wrong...I wasn't defending the actions, just putting out possible reasons for the various actions. My comment about the frequency of dinner vs a hockey game wasn't to say the hockey game should take priority (cuz it shouldn't), just that I can see why someone would say no to this dinner as it's a fairly frequent event. The hockey playoffs, not so much. And comparing it to the gym IS fair, because, yes...the hockey game should be the first thing to go. BUT...it will also be complained about, and if it can be prioritized up over something it would be. If mr. nicks family had dinner with the two of you every second thursday and for some reason it fell on some kind of dance or gym event one time, you would probably miss the dinner that time. That's all I'm saying. And yes, FF is 100% correct...his family has to know that an invite to him includes you. And you are 100% right to feel hurt. Maybe i'm a wierdo, but it wouldn't ever occur to me to NOT invite my partner to something I was invited to(heck I invited my current girlfriend to my brother's wedding 600 miles away after we'd been together for 2 months only). But the thing is everyone is a bit different, and if something is bugging you you need to talk about it right away, not let it fester. Although you or I may not be able to comprehend the reasoning behind something, it doesn't mean the person won't change their patterns after discussion. Or, even, change your mind or philosophy on it. posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (12:04 pm) Reply to: FinalyFree Well, it was his mom who asked me if I was going to be at Christmas dinner. THe way he asked me bugged me, too... "My mom asked me if you were going to come to dinner." I don't want to be invited because he thinks it will appease me. At this point, I'd rather make him continue feeling bad *bad Rosie* And at this point, I could care less about being invited. I just want to say no to everything! Which doesn't help anything, I know!! I don't know if more talking will do anything. Last night before going to bed, I called him back to tell him I was still mad at him. And that was it!! posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (12:10 pm) Reply to: Twitchy67 I appreciate the things you've said. After all, a guy's point of view is handy and important, in this case! I tend to wait before saying something because I never want to make a mountain out of a mole hill. "Although you or I may not be able to comprehend the reasoning behind something, it doesn't mean the person won't change their patterns after discussion. Or, even, change your mind or philosophy on it." I totally agree. Mr. Nick is open to change and is always ready to make me happy. I just wish he was a mind reader. :-p BWAHAHAA posted by: katz (reply) post date: 04.16.07 (4:48 pm) Umm well I can tell you I was in a mixed relationship. I was not included in V's family functions for 2 years because his dad had a problem with him dating "white" girls. Is it possible that Mr. Nick may be trying to protect you from rude comments because his family may not be so open to the mixed race relationship thing? And he may not want to tell you because it may hurt your feelings? His dad did open up to me afterwards, his parents actually got me a gold necklace that had a heart with the word special in it. I think that was the hardest part about the break up really. I considered them my family more than my own family. posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 04.17.07 (8:57 am) Reply to: katz I don't know for sure what his parents think of him dating someone Chinese. It doesn't appear to be a problem although the community he's grown up in is predominantly white. But since I brought it up to Mr. Nick, he's been quick to invite me to some functions...which makes me just as mad! posted by: katz (reply) post date: 04.17.07 (2:22 pm) Reply to: rosietulips yeah i know what you mean.. Doesn't seem like the invites are genuine now. posted by: ggirl (reply) post date: 04.18.07 (9:58 am) Yay for you for talking about it. FinalyFree is right about the "dropping hints" thing. Guys are just not wired like that, I think. He called you back AFTER the game? I'd be furious, too. Is it possible that all of this has to do with the Crohn's Disease problem? Maybe he's holding you at a distance because of his own issues about closeness. I don't know. Maybe I've been in therapy too long. posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 04.18.07 (11:44 am) Reply to: ggirl *L* I think Mr. Nick was just being a guy and not thinking. (GRR!) But things are okay now that he knows how I feel. Funny though...he said "I didn't know you were feeling excluded" which is exactly what he said when I was upset about not ever being invited to go with him to his parents' cabin when he was going every weekend for skiing. I had hung up on him when the hockey game was back on during the commercial break, and I was not surprised he waited until the game ended to call me back (it was like 5 minutes). GRR! Men sometimes!! |
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